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Ultimate Mets Database popularity ranking: 190 of 984 players
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George Dallas Green
Born: August 4, 1934 at Newport, Del.
Throws: Right Bats: Left
Height: 6.05 Weight: 210

Dallas Green was the most popular Ultimate Mets Database daily lookup on January 1, 2011, January 9, 2011, January 10, 2011, March 27, 2014, and March 28, 2014.

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Non-playing roles with Mets
  • Manager 1993 - 1996

First Mets game: July 23, 1966
Last Mets game: August 4, 1966





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Won Doney
January 8, 2001
It's funny how he was a better pitcher than manager, even with an ERA above 5.

Jack
March 20, 2001
Good Lord, but he was one of the worst tactical managers I've ever seen. I remember telling people I would throw a party the day Dallas Green was fired.

Anthony J Reccoppa
March 29, 2001
Just an old fool, who was burnt out from failing in New York with a lowly Yankee team. I know the Mets were in a tough spot because Torborg was so bad, but after 1993, Dallas should have been sent to pasture. This team floundered for 3 more useless seasons before getting smart. Bobby V. with all his faults is still 100% better than this guy.

Houston Blue
March 31, 2001
Gotta love a guy who names himself after a city AND a color too. I admire this mans bravery. He's Green he's mean and he eats BEANS!!

Marty C.
April 3, 2001
He's in the top 5 of the worst managers in team history, with George Bamberger, Joe Frazier, Jeff Torborg and Wes Westrum (honorable mention goes to Mike Cubbage, the most overrated managerial prospect in the past 15 years, the David West of Managerial Candidates - notice he never got a MLB job afterwards). Ask Paul Wilson, Izzy and Pulsipher how good a manager he was after he slagged their arms into the operating room. When the team would play poorly, his answer was "they didn't have any fire in the belly", and the sports writers, who he was popular with, loved him because they thought he was John Wayne in a baseball uniform, and were impressed by how "tough" their spring training camps were. If Valentine managed the team in 95, they would have been in playoff contention two years earlier and had a young pitching staff that was healthy. We lost 3 years development letting this Philly retread run the club as a knee jerk reaction to Stylemaster Torberg vacation clubhouse. Thanks Al Harazin (notice he doesn't have a MLB job either - he's teaching high school now).

Andy16
April 9, 2001
I know MartyC personally trust me this guy knows Baseball. Dallas at his very best was a sub 500 Manager with every team except Philly.........ar

Mr. Sparkle
April 12, 2001
Maybe I'm crazy but I liked him as a manager. He basically didn't put up with anyone's s###. It wasn't his fault that they were lousy in the mid 90's. Only thing I didn't like was that if he didn't like you, you were buried. He never really liked giving a guy a second chance.

murphy
May 7, 2001
Dallas Green may not have put up with anybody's crap, but he destroyed or nearly destroyed the career of several players. Isringhausen, Pulsipher, Wilson, Burnitz. This guy never should have been allowed to manage the kids on the Mets roster. I hated Jeff Torborg. I remember one time after a leadoff hit to start the game, that moron Torborg had the second place guy sacrifice the runner to second. And it was a obvious sacrifice, no bunt for base hit. Playing for one run in the first inning, typical idiot Torborg. But Dallas Green was worse. He nearly imploded the entire franchise.

kinerskorner
May 23, 2001
dallas green was an awful manager. ill never understand why they hired him in the first place. he made jeff torborg look like gil hodges.

Coach HoJo 20
June 1, 2001
Dallas had some young guns on his team, which he failed to utilize. Although Dallas sucked I wouild rather have him than Jeff Torborg.

Schil
July 12, 2001
...I don't buy all this stuff about ruining the likes of Pulsipher, Wilson, Isringhausen & Burnitz; he didn't injure them & most are still around with some doing pretty well. For all the Dallas bashers let me remind them who developed/dealt for then managed the 1980 WS champion Phils; he almost pulled it off again with the '84 Cubs. Leon Durham's boot in their playoff against the Pads was as big if not bigger than BillyBucks. Dallas has been a winner ever since his high school & college days in Delaware & for my money he's been to the show & done OK!

David Mo
July 17, 2001
Whatever else you say about him, remember his vital contribution to the '86 World Champs. It was Green, as GM of the Cubs, who dealt Bill Buckner to the Boston Red Sox.

Lisa E.
August 4, 2001
To hell with all you mean-spirited Dallas bashers!! I know him to be a man of integrity!! He was an awesome player and I think he was one helluva great manager!!! A manager is only as good as the players he manages!! I LOVE Dallas Green!! He was one tough cookie!! I respect that!! I will always admire him!! Go Dallas!!!

Whitefish
August 8, 2001
Dallas was a good manager, but not the right manager at the time. He could have riled up the veterans, but he ended up destroying the youth of that team. Pete Schourek and Jeremy Burnitz were just two of the guys shipped off to "greener pastures." The choice to can Green was a powerplay between then GM Joe McIlvane and assistant GM Steve Phillips. Phillips won on all counts with having Bobby V in and then getting Mac's job less than a year later.

bob Mercier
August 15, 2001
I thought dallas green was all right as Mets manager. It certainally was better having him than jeff torborg, and, the Mets teams of 1994 and 1995 were alot better than the putrid 1993 Mets. Dallas green I understand did not do much for the Mets but still if it were not for the strike he could have guided the Mets to possibly 2 winning seasons.

Mr. Sparkle
August 15, 2001
Dallas is currently trying to run Scott Rolen out of Philly. I hope he's successful. Despite a sub par year I'd live to see Rolen at 3rd for the Mets next year. Dallas has always had a habit of riding a guy until they dump him. He did that to several guys on the Mets. At the time I liked his no BS attitude but looking back I think the guy was a nut job.

Metsfan227
September 16, 2001
Dallas Green ranks as the worst mananger ever. He had no patience with the Mets' young prospects, and couldn't keep their veterans in control, either. Thankfully Bobby Valentine rescued this franchise.

Elliott
October 2, 2001
How Can you not LIKE Dallas Green. Here is a man who drank a 6-pack of Schlitz after every game. He was perfect for the Mets. It was just like having Archie Bunker managing the Mets

gene
December 22, 2001
A manager who singlehandedly killed the careers of Bill Pulshiper, Paul wilson and Izzy (until he recovered with A's). He is also responsible for running Burnitz out of the Mets. He did more damage to Mets youth movement than any manager in the history of the game. His presence set back Mets another 10 years... What a shame..

a mets fan
April 3, 2002
The thing is that he was not a great manager but not really awful either. I just wish he could have been somewhat more reasonable with his players. I will never forget the time he made Jeromy Burnitz cry before a game in 1994 because of the way he swung his bat. From what I know he always left the veterans alone. I remember him and Brett Butler almost never spoke. Let's face it he was just mean!

Johnny Met
July 2, 2002
After batting practice in May 1985, about four of us were hanging around the row of seats behind the dugout. The stands were empty. Dallas Green was the last one off the field. He walked over with a handful of balls and rolled a ball on the top of the dugout to each one of us. Say what you will about Mr. Green; I have a Met souvenir thanks to him.

RKnight
September 28, 2002
I think Dallas was below aveage for the Mets. He never waanted to take any sort of accountability for the fate of the team. He basked in the glory when the Mets had the best record in baseball over the second half of the '95 season. Yet he assumed none of the blame for the disaterous 1996 season. Ever wonder how BV won 88 games in '97 will basically the same team?

Hans Moleman
September 30, 2002
I saw him in the Westchester Mall with his wife one time. He's a big dude.

Ken Morrison
October 13, 2003
I'm sure this story appears under "P" for "Piersall", too, but Dallas Green gave up Jimmy's 100th MLB homer, in honor of which Jimmy ran the bases backwards. Here in Chicago, managing and GM-ing, Dallas always (THOUGHT he) knew everything. I always reveled in the knowledge that at least somebody, sometime, had shown him up, big-time. (And of course with Piersall on the radio in Chicago, the incident was occasionally re-lived.)

JV
October 21, 2003
Ruined the Mets' youth movement and lost the clubhouse. WORST MANAGER EVER!

Jonathan Stern
May 22, 2004
It is difficult to defend Dallas too much given his record and longevity with the Mets. However, though the negative comments are mostly justified, I think Dallas's Mets tenure is a little misunderstood.

There was no way he or anyone else could have turned around the 1993 Mets. They were too screwed up as a team and organization. But after the Mets were roasted by comedians and wags all throughout 1993, the laughter stopped in 1994. The Mets were young and hungry and they played respectable ball until the strike. Dallas psyched out certain young players, but it's possible that some of them did not have much to recommend them anyway. Remember that most of the above comments pertaining to Burnitz were made BEFORE his second tour of duty with the Mets. We all know how that went.

In 1995, Dallas did not have the benefit of a full Spring training. Again, it was a young team. But they played very well down the stretch and gave us fans reasons to think that the future was bright. With Hootie blasting in the clubhouse, the team had chemistry and enthusiasm. Certain players, particularly Brogna, Franco, and Hundley, clearly enjoyed playing for their manager. Even Brett Butler found several things to praise about Green.

But in 1996, it all fell apart. To what extent Dallas was to blame for the Generation K debacle is difficult to say for sure. Could rampant steroid use thoughout the league also have been a factor? It was over, and Bobby took the team to the next level. Nonetheless, I remember the Dallas Green era as one of hustle and intensity with the laughter having been silenced... and the losing continuing for the most part.

Since no one is likely to publish "The Wit and Wisdom of Dallas Green" anytime soon, here are some of the best "bon mots" from the Mets' greatest quotemeister since Casey Stengel recycled with some accuracy from my memory banks:

On his team's performance: "Well, we had a Mets day."

On his day-job: "There are days when I feel sorry for myself."

On Anthony Young: "Why did he go to his slider? Maybe Jay Leno told him to do it so he can get him back onto his show."

On how he handled losing: "I just go home and beat the hell out of my wife, Sylvia." As if Dallas and the Mets did not have enough to agonize over in 1993, the Women's Rights activists came after him for this. I wonder why...

Asked by Jonathan (not me!) of DynaMets what the hardest thing about managing is, his response: Well, Jonathan... watching my team lose, and we've been doing a lot of that." Jenny Jiles, where are you?

The following four comments taken from the Gannett Suburban and New York Times newspapers, 9/21/93:

On losing 100 games: "Well, we did it in style."

"It's pretty obvious that we earned it. We didn't back into 100. We came right at it."

On rebuilding: "One if these days, you guys (the reporters) are going to ask me about our needs. And it's a long list. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know we need a lot."

On his most lasting image of 1993: "The incessant press conferences resulting from off the field and clubhouse activity."

And if you really want to laugh, read Bill Conlin's collection of writings for transcriptions of Dallas's press conferences and speeches .

Jeff In Florida
May 26, 2004
Thanks SO much for that post on Dallas Green. I'd forgotten how pathetic a man he was. Here's one more incident. He was so pissed off at the team late in 1993 for all of their losing that he threw over the after game food table in the Mets clubhouse. In response to the hated Green, Doc Gooden and a young pitcher picked up some chips and started eating!

Kiwiwriter
June 23, 2004
The man was incredible...they brought him in as manager in 1993 to restore order and the players instead tossed firecrackers at kids and squirted bleach at reporters!

He reminded me of some of the typical "captains" in TV cop shows, where the detective hero is one of these renegade types who is always in conflict with his supervisor. In between the car chases and interrogations, the detective and supervisor have a big argument over the detective's handling of the case or beating a witness or wrecking his car. Then the detective goes out and brings in the killer anyway, earning the supervisor's grudging admiration.

Dallas Green seemed as ineffectual, pompous, and loudmouthed as those captains. However, the 1993 Mets weren't bringing in the bad guys, either. He did a little better with the 1994 and 1995 editions, but he wrecked those "Generation K" arms.

And when he challenged Jeromy Burnitz, Burnitz took up the challenge. So Green hid in his office with the door closed. That made Green look like a fraud to his players. The age of ruling a team by tyranny died with the reserve clause.

Not my favorite Met manager.

LenDog
June 28, 2004
Uggggghhhh.

His name alone triggers awful memories.

First of all, his habit of criticizing players in the press was deplorable.

Second, his hiring was a sign of how out of touch the Wilpon/Doubleday leadership had become -- let's hire someone from the Dagwood Bumstead era to manage our up- and-coming youngsters.

Oh, and our young black and Latino talent will love playing for a 120 year old white guy from the dead ball era.

mikemak
June 3, 2005
In July '64 while with the Phils, he served up Pete Rose's only career grand slam.

Putbeds 62
December 9, 2005
When he was managing Philly, he basically had a grizzled, veteran team that refused to lose. When he was with the Mets, he was in a no-win situlation. I still remember calling Scott Ferrall on the Bench on WFAN on the day they fired Green and they bought in Bobby V.; my happy voice was priceless but my late mom was disappointed that Dallas was let go, she liked him for this reason: She always said that he looked like Sen. Ted Kennedy.

Skip Walton
April 19, 2007
Not a great tactical manager. I remember Bob Boone once saying about the Phillies 1980 team something like we have a bunch of great players on this team and we could have won with anyone, it was just a matter of time.

As for his comments, it's a breath of fresh air to hear someone say things like Dallas. The players he psyched out didn't turn out to be mega stars anyway and there was no evidence that they would have been. In this hyper KGB PC era you can't even use the word gay in without being labeled a homophobe. We need more people to say non pc things no matter how offensive to get a point across and not get fired, but be praised for being free thinkers.

He would have better suited for the front office, like he was with the Cubs. He was a good evaluator of talent but his ownership was the pits there. Should have gotten another GM opportunity.

Frankie B
September 22, 2007
Was terrible in 1993 but John McGraw would not win with that team. Did a great job in 1994 raising the Mets to some sort of respectability. In 1995, started off way too slow and got lucky that the Mets young talent bailed him out. Why I cannot stand Dallas Green was 1996. I remember a game that Paul Wilson pitched against the Cubs. He pitched 8 innings and struck out 10 batters and had a 4-2 lead. He allowed a run in the ninth and had two outs. Instead of taking out the young kid and bringing in Franco to close it out, he leaves him in and Sammy Sosa hits a 550 -foot bomb. Paul Wilson was never the same. He should have been fired earlier.

JFK
July 22, 2008
Here is a bizarre stat about Green. He managed the Mets in 4 straight seasons, but not once did he manage 162 games in any season. In 1993, was hired during the middle of the season, 1994 was a strike, 1995 season started late and in 1996 he was fired during the season.

DailySkew
December 19, 2008
I really disliked his style, comments, and how he treated Doc Gooden and Generation K. Truly a dark age for the Mets.

rich morgan
January 11, 2011
The hearts of all Mets fans and everyone in America go out to the Green family after the senseless loss of their 9-year-old granddaughter in the madness of Saturday January 8th, a sad day for our country and the world.

Jonathan Stern
October 7, 2011
For many years, the name "Dallas Green" brought a smile to my face. Now, I cannot think of him without thinking about that poor little girl.

Ed K
February 6, 2013
One thing about his playing days should have given the Mets a warning about Green: Even though he was a righty pitcher, he batted lefty for a lofty .120 batting average. Why expose your pitching arm to a HBP for that?

I also noted that in 1965, the Phils tried to sell him off to the Senators but they returned him after a few weeks. In 1966, the Phils tried to sell him to the Mets but they returned him in a few weeks. In 1967, the Phils finally gave up and released him.









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